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Title: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 10, 2011, 12:21 pm
I'm worried. I placed an order and finalized it very early Tuesday night, since seller posted about BTC troubles and not wanting to do escrow anymore. I'm close to his location so usually it should take 24 to 48 hrs. Nothing in today's mail either. Guy hasn't been online for a while too and some other dude just complained about a bad delivery and some 1/5s just showed up in his feedbacks.

/me sighs

I guess no matter what reputation someone has, if they start bitching about escrow and such wanting to do biz outside of escrow all warning lamps should come on....

Seriously, I'm a n00b here, but the story just seems to be the same all over. Get a lil rep, now demand no escrow, blam shit hits the fan.

Totally bummed out, had plans for the weekend :(
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: awesome1126 on September 10, 2011, 01:41 pm
I surely hope not. This doesn't seem like him, I also have an order from this batch but it's to the US.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: NevilleNobody on September 10, 2011, 02:57 pm
Chill out Dickwad. He is the sheets.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: oop on September 10, 2011, 03:51 pm
Not sure of this is related but he seems to have removed his sales posts for M, L, and K from SR.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: LightShowDance on September 10, 2011, 04:33 pm
I'm really worried. I finalized early  >:( because of his "trusted seller" in falling BTC trouble. This was a mistake. I have not got anything till now. This pattern should be well known. I am afraid that for the late orders the game will be over. 
His feedbacks are getting bad now.  How now for the late cases? Probably no goods, no escrow, no refund. But what I say: It is only  paranoia and hope dies last.

(But in one point of view juergen could be right: over 650 visible feedbacks. That is really a great number. Perhaps in this case it is better to go, before the others come. But is not necessary to scam at the end. I think, these visible feedback lighthouses are not in all cases the best attractors of attention, if one lives in the real world, too. It should be possible to cut the visible number, so if the seller want it.)
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: zerostate976 on September 10, 2011, 04:53 pm
i would let more time pass, remember he is human.  Maybe he had to leave town to help a close friend without notice, got sick, ect... the list goes on. 
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: LightShowDance on September 10, 2011, 05:10 pm
Right, we will see.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: acurlenamu on September 10, 2011, 05:23 pm
I placed an order with him last weekend and haven't received yet, but it's international shipping and we're still well within the amount of time it may take for the package to arrive.  Also, I know he's been on in the last few days, as I accidentally didn't order his international shipping item with my other transaction, and in the last few days he marked it as 'shipped'.

I'd be surprised if one of the top rated sellers on SR suddenly started trying to scam everyone, especially since he stands to gain a lot more from continuing to sell here than to pull a few one time scams and then trash his reputation.  Also, those negative reviews don't have any comment accompanying them, which makes them look shady.  So the truth is we don't know why he pulled his listings, but it could be for  legitimate reasons.  So everyone needs to chill and be patient.  If you still haven't received your shit in a week or two, then it makes sense to be concerned.

I do hope everything is okay.  juergen2001, if you're reading this, it'd be great if you could post here and let people know what's up.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: acurlenamu on September 10, 2011, 05:54 pm
Actually I just noticed juergen added this to his seller profile:

Quote
2) ALSO VERY IMPORTANT!!!! I HAVE LOT'S OF STUFF TO DO IN MY PRIVATE LIVE. I DON'T WANT TO LOOSE OR DISAPPOINT ANY OF MY COSTUMERS. I'M STILL GOING TO SEND PACKAGES SO THAT ALL OF YOU ARE SATISFIED, BUT I CAN'T ANSWER ANY OF YOUR MAILS UNTIL THE END OF SEPTEMBER. I'M REALLY SORRY, BUT I HAD THE CHOICE WEATHER TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS OR TO SEND THE PACKAGES. I HOPE YOUR HAPPY WITH MY CHOICE :-)

So we may not hear from him for a while (if ever again, but I don't want to be pessimistic).  But if the packages people ordered arrive, then we'll know what's up.  In fact there's another thread posted earlier today in rumor mill complaining about a minor issue with a package just received yesterday from juergen, so take that as you will.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 10, 2011, 08:28 pm
yeah not ready yet to give up on the guy. He sure seemed a proper dude. However, all the "usual indicators" are there. First he mentioned money troubles due to BTC crash, then said uhm can't do escrow anymore (which I dun understand because hedging should take care of all that), then talks about delays, then disappears completely and all listings are removed.

Ionno, dun look like "helping friends over the weekend".

As said, I'm not alleging ill will on his part, but it all smacks a lot of trouble in the brewing.

One thing I really really don't understand is how it is that two hours ago he gets a "finalizing early" feedback when his profile says "last seen 2 days ago". You have to place an order "in transit" before it can be finalized.

/me shrugs

One thing is for sure for me though, in the future, no escrow = no business....
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: PhenoMenal on September 10, 2011, 08:58 pm
well I received my order of 3gms MDMA, it took 9 days to get to Australia from the date I ordered...
BUT
It seems to be MDA (and a friend agrees), not MDMA :(
It's still quite nice, but obviously not as nice as MDMA, and that's what I believed I was paying for.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Jesters on September 10, 2011, 09:05 pm
I'm hoping he makes a come back as well cuz his product was A+.  Let's hope he has some time to jump on the board and let us know what's going on.  H was a stellar vendor in my books.


J.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: mseller on September 10, 2011, 09:36 pm
As I know, he ranked 1st while ago.
I think he have something to do but before shipped all orders. So he get his listings down and that is it.
I wish all is good.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: acurlenamu on September 10, 2011, 10:11 pm
One thing I really really don't understand is how it is that two hours ago he gets a "finalizing early" feedback when his profile says "last seen 2 days ago". You have to place an order "in transit" before it can be finalized.
Oh yeah, that was me finalizing my order for international shipping and being a bit of a newb.  I should of just made the comment be something like "shipping".
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Modoki on September 10, 2011, 10:17 pm
Hey, just wanted to say I am pretty sure juergen won't scam on purpose. I think he may be in some light or heavy trouble IRL or something. When he started vending, he had some smaller security issue I found that may indicate a few further weaknesses. The guy is german and german police is pretty tough when it comes to such professionalism.
However, juergen did great so far and I am really sure he doesn't have the plan to scam any of you. Rather hope for him that all is alright on his side, and if it is, he surely comes back to fix the shit up.
Well yeah sorry that I can't present any evidence ;)
Much love
M
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: f0rgotten on September 11, 2011, 01:43 am
Hey everyone,
I hope I am not the one who slightly started this horrible snowball going. Just to clarify things, I did get my package from juergen, though not the best packaging I have received , not the worst, also it was just blotter. This aside he did get it to me, (I live in a far off place, with kind of slow mail) under the twenty day period. For those who are worried about releasing out of escrow,I did this, and got what I ordered sort of. I got 3 of the tabs I ordered and some monster that I believe is a lama. I was kind of miffed about not getting what I ordered, but I still left him a 5/5. I know this likely won't help people and their hysterics, but just to ease some of your nerves, I have lost 200+USD on something in the mail, and could worry less about it. Remember it is just money, and the d00d could have something serious going on, like illness in the family (Lord forbid), or some other kind of personal trouble, let's try to be considerate. Homeboy did pump out like a billion sales in a month or something.....
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: dr octagon on September 11, 2011, 07:01 am
well I received my order of 3gms MDMA, it took 9 days to get to Australia from the date I ordered...
BUT
It seems to be MDA (and a friend agrees), not MDMA :(
It's still quite nice, but obviously not as nice as MDMA, and that's what I believed I was paying for.

It took 10 days to OZ for me. EDIT:: I got MDMA/MDEA.....

* Didn't reagent test MDA
* Didn't last longer than MDMA.
* No real psychedelic aspect
* Easy next day
* Not speedy whatsoever.  Very mellow, no charge.

4 of us parachuted 150mg  then 1-2 hours later we boosted with 50mg.

The come up was quick and strong, mind you I had fasted for 7 hours beforehand and came on much quicker than anyone else.
We were all rolling balls during the peak, and then it just tapered off gracefully. Good stuff.
   
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 11, 2011, 12:09 pm
Agree with above post, his shit was MDMA, and pretty good one at that. One thing I have seen time and time again is that people that are used to pills and get their hands on really good molly for the first time tend to take too much. So much that it gets speedy and the twitch drowns out the emphatic qualities, and then they "think" it was something else.

Anyways, dun look like it matters anymore at this point. Someone tagged him with 4 "1 out of 5"s in a row so shit seems to be real.

One thing I'd like to say though. Somewhere farther up someone pulled a "chill the fuck out he might be busy". And frankly, after reading similar responses to similar issues in other threads I'm getting a bit tired of it. You can read "this isn't Amazon" from the vendor-side quite a bit. And yes it isn't, but that goes both ways. You dunno where a buyer gets their shit shipped to. A vendor "disappearing" for "a couple days" after an order is placed MUST be considered compromised by anyone who has even the smallest shred of prudence in them. Maybe my shit gets shipped to a place full of carded shit? Maybe my shit gets shipped to a place with a big stash of something else? This means now I have to go through all the precautionary motions and take the risk to move a lot if shit in a hassle.

I'm just saying, I'm not assuming ill will yet on part of this vendor, matter of fact, fuck the money I hope he is okay. Just tired of hearing this "chill out mofo" routine. It's not always about a guy pheening for a a fix of his favorite recreational drug.

So FFS if you have to "help your friend move" for a few days, or have "the girlfriend coming over for the weekend" it would always be nice manners to not take orders during that period rather than asking for finalized orders while being unreachable. You dun take someone's money and come back a few days later saying "oh yeah that, sowwy, mum needed to go shopping".

As I said, I dun think these things about this vendor. But if you ask me, with his number of transactions in one month there is very well the chance he's in serious shit with the BTC tanking like it did. Who knows, maybe the Russians are already looking for him lol. 650 transactions of an average value of over 10 coins in 1 month? And then your value nosedives from 11 to 4.75? Better hope he didn't buy on front with his cash in BTC or he might have some serious vendor issues. Prolly just got tired of the BTC bullshit and walked away. God knows his shit will sell like hotcakes in da club any day of the week.

Anyways, just needed to vent. I hope the guy is okay more than anything. Just dun be so eager with this whole "oh just chill out" routine because sometimes there's more to it.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: acurlenamu on September 12, 2011, 06:42 am
It took 10 days to OZ for me. I got MDMA.....

* Didn't reagent test MDA
* Didn't last longer than MDMA.
* No real psychedelic aspect
* Easy next day
* Not speedy whatsoever.  Very mellow, no charge.

4 of us parachuted 150mg  then 1-2 hours later we boosted with 50mg.

The come up was quick and strong, mind you I had fasted for 7 hours beforehand and came on much quicker than anyone else.
We were all rolling balls during the peak, and then it just tapered off gracefully. Good stuff.
cool - I'm really looking forward to getting my package.  Hope it arrives safe and sound!

also juergen has his listings up again, so things are probably okay.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: nomad bloodbath on September 12, 2011, 07:10 am
If you are complaining on the #1 vendor on Silk Road maybe you are the probelm.
:D
nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: arutha on September 12, 2011, 08:49 am
I have an order from nearly 2 weeks ago not yet arrived, also finalized early for him. Its international so definitely still could be on the way, but I'm starting to wonder a little bit. Will update here when/if it arrives.

Slightly related, so many people say 'finalizing early, will update later', but I don't think there is an actual way to update/change feedback is there?
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: NevilleNobody on September 12, 2011, 10:56 am
J 2k01 is the best. You gotta understand he is very busy so he's not sitting at a puter waiting to answer your emails. Be patient. The prod will arrive and it will be high qual. I'm trying to place a couple of orders right now and whilst I'm getting a little frustrated, this ain't ebay and I know he will respond as soon as he can. Oh, and I also know it will arrive safe and secure.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 12, 2011, 11:44 am
J 2k01 is the best. You gotta understand he is very busy so he's not sitting at a puter waiting to answer your emails. Be patient. The prod will arrive and it will be high qual. I'm trying to place a couple of orders right now and whilst I'm getting a little frustrated, this ain't ebay and I know he will respond as soon as he can. Oh, and I also know it will arrive safe and secure.

Definitely high qual. At the volumes the guy turns over anything going wrong would be outside his control anyways. He posted new shit. Just happy nothing happened to him or anything.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: silkroaduser on September 12, 2011, 10:15 pm
I've placed signifcant orders of MDMA, Ketamine and LSD from juergen2001 based on the good reviews. My immediate take is that the Ketamine was clearly heavily cut with an unknown active substance. I suspect some sort or research chemical but obviously this would be a wild guess on my part. I'm disposing of the reamainder of the order (multiple gr) of Ketamine as this truley was an unpleasant experience for everyone involved that was expecting Ketamine. I'm experienced with Ketamine and very confidendent that this is a fair assestment of the product I received.

I wouldn't say the "MDMA" was an unpleasant experience like the Ketamine was but I do feel the product isn't as advertised. I wasn't going to mention anything publicly but the Ketamine was too much to bite my lip. I won't  go as far to call out anyone on the MDMA as I'm doing with the Ketamine but I do feel confident my assesment. I really don't understand how more people aren't calling this out in the reviews as this isn't a case of a subtle cut with an inactive substance. I do hope the shit eventually hits the fan for this vendor or otherwise it's a bad sign for SR that the #1 ranked vendor can pull this crap off for this long and profit.  I'm not even sure I'm even willing to sample the LSD at this point, sigh.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Modoki on September 12, 2011, 10:27 pm
well, he seems to have very inconsistent quality in that it changes sometimes. I had some weed from him a few times and one time it was great, another time it was... well, like mids (quite expensive then)
I didn't order anything else from him so far.

Someone should analyse this for sure.

much love
M
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: NevilleNobody on September 12, 2011, 10:39 pm
Well I've just placed a couple of reasonably large orders with him right now. Funny thing now I think about it was I have to send the del address twice using both of his keys.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: acurlenamu on September 13, 2011, 12:42 am
I just got my package from juergen today.  Very innocuous looking, and the product looks good.  Haven't tried it yet, but given that most of the ecstasy in my part of the world ain't that great, I'm optimistic :-)
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 13, 2011, 03:05 am
Still nuthin' here. Tonite it will be a week. Letter runtime from him to me is 24hrs, 48max., and we don't have dogs sniffing domestic mail either, only international. No answer to PMs yet.

Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: meh on September 13, 2011, 03:39 am
Did anyone that received product recently have theirs shipped after the 6th (around the time he started removing some of his listings)? Having the same issue as the poster above.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: dr octagon on September 13, 2011, 04:22 am
Just to update my earlier posts about Juergen's 'MDMA'.

I am pretty sure it is actually an MDMA/MDEA combo or very pure MDEA.

Def. not MDA.

After remembering some more about the other night and talking to other people involved,
we are all pretty sure it is not pure MDMA.  We didn't experience as much empathy and loved
up sillyness as one would expect from a strong dose (200mg).  There wasn't much of the inner
child so to speak!

We were all pretty mellow and a little bit 'stoned' as per the MDEA profile.

However, we all had an excellent time,  very clean, VERY strong, no bad comedown or after effects and have
no regrets.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: slylinah on September 13, 2011, 05:53 am
Did anyone that received product recently have theirs shipped after the 6th (around the time he started removing some of his listings)? Having the same issue as the poster above.

Yes.

Juergen has the fastest international shipping I've experienced.

It's a slight shame hes unable to return messages, but its highly understandable. Still gets a 5/5 from me tho, product as advertised
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 13, 2011, 08:34 am
Good to see people are still getting their shit! Maybe the situation will clear up all on it's on.

(Still wouldn't mind getting my stuff now though...been long enuff)

The again on the other hand though, why would someone need addresses encrypted with two different keys? That's kinda weird innit?
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 13, 2011, 02:19 pm
UPDATE:

Received today after 1 week. Very well packed as usual. Can't test right now..........(unfortunately lol)

Definitely different batch this time. What I got from him previously was dirty/brownish this is snow white, can't open it right now so I dun see how crystalline it really is. I'm sure it'll be okay though.

Deep breath everyone! The fave guy seems to be around still, phew.........
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Modoki on September 20, 2011, 11:34 am
I have an unfilled order with juergen. I am still waiting for receiving it. I hope he clears it up asap :/
much love
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: awesome1126 on September 20, 2011, 11:43 am
I received my order from Juergen to the US in about 9 days, looks to be very high quality and the packaging was great.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: skaface on September 21, 2011, 09:16 am
Still waiting on my order now 14days / 10 business days.

My 1st SR experience - is this standard postage time?
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Modoki on September 21, 2011, 10:52 am
yeah, I am waiting as well - and he doesn't respond at the moment Oo
And no, this is not standard postage time, its longer already.
Much love
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Knipforger on September 21, 2011, 03:38 pm
Im also getting a bit worried with my package. I have ordered 5 grams of MDMA but havent received anything untill now (9 days since I finalised the order, and im located in europe). Lets hope this will not turn out to be my first and last experience with Silk Road.

Peace
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: silkroaduser on September 21, 2011, 04:56 pm
This seller has obviously gone terribly bad. I had all escrow orders delivered in 1 week in the USA from this seller. I tried to warn people but  the fanboyism here was too much for anyone to pay attention. The escrow system is there for a reason no matter how good the sellers past reviews mighy be.

o multiple public keys (wtf?)
o all of the sudden out of escrow is mandatory. (sellers listings are hedged so this move made little sense)
o no communication from the seller (even warned people he will not respond)
o products arent as advertised (prior orders; people ignored warnings)

The thing that gets me is that people are still ordering based on the  good early release feedback. I tried to edit my feedback but this has little effect as people only go back a few pages when reviewing feedback.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: sickboy on September 21, 2011, 05:14 pm
I recieved an order last week, out of escrow. It only took 6 days to US. Now you guys have me all worried cause I just ordered 3 more.
Fingers crossed on this one.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: sickboy on September 21, 2011, 08:11 pm
Well I see recent feedback stating product received in the last few hours. Who knows about some of the other delays? The problem is Juergen has gone completely silent. So, who can really say other than the man himself? I would think if it were truly a scam he would still have his #1 selling product listed. People would finalize early on that all day long until everyone really caught on.   
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Modoki on September 22, 2011, 12:56 pm
I am pretty fucking annoyed that he doesn't answer nor ships my product. He just went with my money and goes on with his business. WTF, didn't expect this with juergen, especially for such measly sums.
I still doubt he doing anything wicked, just... well, plain chaos or something?
Much love
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: zerostate976 on September 24, 2011, 12:53 am
has there been any updates on this, I see a new list for 2 grams of brown MDMA but dont see it
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Calistoner on September 24, 2011, 03:17 am
word on the street is juergen bit off more then can chew.

too many orders, mass confusion, forgetting who gave what, what orders due, etc.


bug the hell out of him if he owes you. dont let another missit incident happen. he must own up to his responsibilities. if you guys payed him and he hasnt fulfilled his duty of shipping the items, then his listings shouldnt be up. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!

we cannot let this happen. SR wont do anything about it, i know this since he lets missit roam and scam freely.

juergen is SR's "#1" vendor. sure doesnt seem like it.




Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: sickboy on September 24, 2011, 03:54 am
word on the street is juergen bit off more then can chew.

too many orders, mass confusion, forgetting who gave what, what orders due, etc.


bug the hell out of him if he owes you. dont let another missit incident happen. he must own up to his responsibilities. if you guys payed him and he hasnt fulfilled his duty of shipping the items, then his listings shouldnt be up. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!

we cannot let this happen. SR wont do anything about it, i know this since he lets missit roam and scam freely.

juergen is SR's "#1" vendor. sure doesnt seem like it.

Well... I guess as long as he gets it sorted out. I have quite a sizable order out and I'm expecting delivery in the next few days. I really want to make another one now but until I recieve the one already ordred I'm not going to.
Let's hope this gets resolved soon.
In the meantime, can anyone suggest an alternative vendor with good success delivering to the states?
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Calistoner on September 24, 2011, 04:16 am
word on the street is juergen bit off more then can chew.

too many orders, mass confusion, forgetting who gave what, what orders due, etc.


bug the hell out of him if he owes you. dont let another missit incident happen. he must own up to his responsibilities. if you guys payed him and he hasnt fulfilled his duty of shipping the items, then his listings shouldnt be up. THIS IS NOT ACCEPTABLE!

we cannot let this happen. SR wont do anything about it, i know this since he lets missit roam and scam freely.

juergen is SR's "#1" vendor. sure doesnt seem like it.

Well... I guess as long as he gets it sorted out. I have quite a sizable order out and I'm expecting delivery in the next few days. I really want to make another one now but until I recieve the one already ordred I'm not going to.
Let's hope this gets resolved soon.
In the meantime, can anyone suggest an alternative vendor with good success delivering to the states?

AAkoven bro. AA all the way
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: johnwholesome on September 24, 2011, 12:27 pm
Finally I'm getting around to put up my update here.

So, this is the deal. The letter arrived 8 days after finalizing. As the mail run time from him to me is absolutely positively no more than 48hrs, that would mean it was shipped 4 or 5 days after the order was paid. There was no answer to messages which was annoying.

As I stated elsewhere, my first order with him was delivered within 2 days, and I was VERY VERY pleased with the dirty-brownish crystals I received.

Unfortunately, not so this time. The stuff I got was a snow-white powder, with very very few very small remainders of some clear white crystals, but I mean really tiny tiny. So technically, and for all intents and purposes this should be called powder, not crystal.

As for the quality, I wouldn't go as far as calling this scam/ripoff or anything. But...BUT....this experience had nothing to do at all with the big KABOOM of the first order.

Started with 200mg, onset was low and slow. There was no nausea or agitated feeling at all. Matter of fact, I was lying on the couch the whole time without any need or drive to get up at all. So I dropped another 150 after it. The high wasn't unpleasant, but just really muted, and strangely enough I had no urge to communicate or do silly loved up shit whatsoever.

Long story short, I popped the entire gram that night, and whilst it wasn't unpleasant, this would have been a huge let-down in the club or w/e.

After about 4 to 5 hours, with constant consumption, I fell asleep on the couch!!!!

Yupp, fell asleep!!!!

I have no grudge towards this guy, but I won't be ordering again. Sometimes shit happens to people, you never know the whole story. I'm sure there's reasons for all this inside or outside his "sphere of control", but at this point amma place my next order with aakoven despite being extremely wary of shipping across borders. I'd rather take that risk than end up with a bag of powder that may or may not be some ground-up 100mg street pills.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Modoki on September 24, 2011, 02:11 pm
well, this certainly is not a good way to do business. I expected more from juergen. And my speed I expected as well.
I think you can safely assume he went con. Most of the time he will deliver, apparently, but after all you can't be sure of when and what you get.
GJ, juergen. care to give me back the money you owe me?
Much love though, please have an epiphany.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Knipforger on September 26, 2011, 07:52 am
Juergens package just arrived now. I already thought it would never arrive... A report will be in later today!

Peace
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: cruiser84 on September 27, 2011, 08:03 am
After 23 days with no product from juergen I messaged him to see how we would resolve this issue as I had released early. He offered me half my money back but asked me not to comment in the forums, but, seeing that was 10 days ago and I still haven't heard back about getting half my bitcoins, I guess its time to let people know. Whether or not his product is the bomb and I was just one of the unlucky ones, I will not purchase from him again as the communication is just ridiculous. I have placed orders now with other mdma sellers. Hopefully they come through but at least they aren't asking for me to release early.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: novocaine on September 27, 2011, 09:08 am
just a general question for my own information.... if your package does not arrive what gives one the idea that they are entitled to bitcoin back?
It would not even cross my mind to ask... so what is the reasoning? Does one think the seller has to pay them back because customs or some postie stole their product??
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Modoki on September 27, 2011, 11:49 am
novocaine, I think I am entitled for a "reship" or to get my bitcoins back because I am fucking sure juergen did never ship my package. It wasn't snacked by the customs or whatever, he simply didn't ship it.
Now, I guess with all this bad press he wouldn't compensate me anyway. Seeing as he didn't respond to me at all, I think he "is done with me" because I talked about how I was not okay with the service. I really appreciated his service 2 times before, but now he simply doesn't put it right. I as a guy who does compensate everyone even for the BTC value decrease they had in waiting times can't understand how you can just go on with your business when there are still unresolved issues. WTF, and he does just that. I am fucked and he doesn't have any negative consequences.
Much love
M
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: btcfreedom on September 27, 2011, 12:23 pm
novocaine, I think I am entitled for a "reship" or to get my bitcoins back because I am fucking sure juergen did never ship my package. It wasn't snacked by the customs or whatever, he simply didn't ship it.
Now, I guess with all this bad press he wouldn't compensate me anyway. Seeing as he didn't respond to me at all, I think he "is done with me" because I talked about how I was not okay with the service. I really appreciated his service 2 times before, but now he simply doesn't put it right. I as a guy who does compensate everyone even for the BTC value decrease they had in waiting times can't understand how you can just go on with your business when there are still unresolved issues. WTF, and he does just that. I am fucked and he doesn't have any negative consequences.
Much love
M

That's fucked up. Fuck that.

I'd never order from him now after reading that Modoki...sorry that happened :(
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: awesome1126 on September 27, 2011, 12:32 pm
My order was shipped the US a few days before he said he wasn't going to respond to messages anymore, and it made it here in just 9 days...has anyone received an order sent after or around this date?

It's funny, I ordered some more MDMA from AAkoven a day after this thread was started because I was worried Juergen's wouldn't show up. Ironically enough, BOTH AAkoven's and Juergen's MDMA showed up on the same day.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: misirlou on September 27, 2011, 01:13 pm
Anybody got something lately from juergen2001?
I ordered on 19sept and live in a neighbouring country.
Nothing arrived yet.
Just ordered 1gr since this is my first SR purchase.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: sickboy on September 27, 2011, 03:43 pm
just a general question for my own information.... if your package does not arrive what gives one the idea that they are entitled to bitcoin back?
It would not even cross my mind to ask... so what is the reasoning? Does one think the seller has to pay them back because customs or some postie stole their product??

I think a partial refund would only be fair. If customs has yer stuff it may be partly the vendor's fault. Vendors should be double vaccuum sealing everything and securing the envelope to appear as just documents, not an envelope with bags of powder rattling around inside. Also, if customs picks up on a vendor's packaging style (i.e. return address, appearance, place letter was mailed from) then they need to change it so it looks completely different. Still, shit happens that can be out of anyone's control, but at least some kind of refund would be better for a vendor than losing a good customer.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: misirlou on September 28, 2011, 02:33 pm
Got it today.
Everything looks excellent and was well packed.
Great seller if you ask me, not that fast but to get BTC is way more slower and anoying.

Too bad he doesn´t sells a bigger variety of products.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: shitballs49 on September 28, 2011, 04:48 pm
I have ordered from juergen a few times so far.. each time I have been pleasantly surprised. I just placed another order with him earlier this week. Shipping times to the US have been around a week on average. This time he told me he has new stuff? I am excited to try :) Says it will be better than previous batches.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: sickboy on September 28, 2011, 06:03 pm
Great seller if you ask me, not that fast but to get BTC is way more slower and anoying.

Have you tried exchangebitcoins.com? You can walk right into a Chase or Wells fargo bank, pay cash, and trade BTC nearly instant. No week long waits like dwolla or others.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: letstryharder on September 28, 2011, 08:41 pm
Anybody got something lately from juergen2001?
I ordered on 19sept and live in a neighbouring country.
Nothing arrived yet.
Just ordered 1gr since this is my first SR purchase.

SWIM ordered on saturday the 24th of september and got the same product you ordered yesterday (27th). Pretty fast and pretty stealthy. Same country as juergen lives. Cant say anything about the quality, as SWIM hasn't tested it yet. But rumors say, it tastes as ugly as the real deal :)

Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: nomad bloodbath on September 29, 2011, 01:23 am
So sad this thread is.

:(
nomad bloodbath
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Looker on September 30, 2011, 01:36 am
I wouldn't worry about it, mine took a bit to deliver. The short of it is it seems he has someone that helps him out by dropping off packages from time to time (I suspect when he gets very busy) and I believe he was also out of town for a few days. This being said I sent him a quick message indicating I was concerned and he got right back to me (in less than 48 hours) apologizing as it seems his partner didn't ship things as timely as Juergen would have. He promptly corrected my order and shipped it out and took 5 business days from him to the east coast. When I weighed it out I think he gave me about .25gm extra which was a nice surprise. I have no doubts this is a minor hiccup and anyone still waiting should see their package soon if not send him a polite message and I am sure he will accomodate.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: misirlou on September 30, 2011, 12:29 pm
Does anybody know how much the small vacuum baggies weigh when they are empty?
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: letstryharder on September 30, 2011, 07:36 pm
Does anybody know how much the small vacuum baggies weigh when they are empty?

I THINK about 1.2 gram, but it´s a few days ago when SWIM put them on a scale and he may be wrong. SWIM thinks, that they could differ in size and weight, cause they may be sealed in custom sizes...
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Jhdrgdzw on September 30, 2011, 07:48 pm
hey guys,

I have been holding off doing this, as I really wanted to like Juergen 2001. He had such great reviews at the time of my order, which was Sept 10th... 

11 days ago I wrote asking what was up, and he said he thought it was lost, and that mine was the first one he'd lost to my region. Although, he offered me a refund at a fraction of what I payed him, I said I wasn't worried and the mail can be funny sometimes. Though looking back, I should have believed him - if you catch my drift...

I said I'd give it till last Monday. Well. Monday mornings  mail came and went & I promptly wrote him back - took him 4 days to respond with something like do you know how to set up refund? I replied, no, I had finalized early for him because, yes I admit, at the time, I had a halo of fanboyism for this chap after watching him rise through up through the ranks.

He had asked me not to write in the forums, and I feel as though I'm being stalled and I feel disrespected. I told sent him a note yesterday that if he hadn't refunded my coins by the end of the day that I would have no choice but to review him in the forum. I also suggested that he send me .5 gram of his speed paste (half my original order) to make up for the hassle.

His communication is sparse, and his English is not great, although my German is not good either, but overall I feel as though I'm being led on, and that is one feeling I can do without.

Ahh,, it's good to get that off my chest  ;D



PS: Updates will follow as to weather Juergen makes good on this.



Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Locrian on October 01, 2011, 09:28 am
First time buyer here, I ordered from juergen as well.  I didn't see this thread here until after I had already done so, and some of the problems accounted had me pretty anxious to receive my package.

I did receive it, in a remarkably short time.  And it's strong stuff.  It was a couple of tenths underweight, but it's hard to argue for the price.

No hiccups, just timely drugs.  I'll probably order from him again unless he falls completely off the map.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: f0rgotten on October 01, 2011, 12:36 pm
I wish this thread would get pulled. Despite me posting in it about the missing blotter, I would chalk that up to me being butter fingered. Though the packaging likely didn't help it, or hell even if it wasn't there. The d00d product was premo and very very legit. So anyone knocking his blotter, check your head. The shits legit and actually quite good, though the ug may or may not be reliable. Was happy with my purchase, and would likely purchase again soon. nuff said . Haters need to stop hating, and let a player play..
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: C20H25N3O on October 03, 2011, 01:37 pm
I am little bit concerned abour juergen2001.
I have made 2 orders 2 days ago but he was last time seen on SR 3 days ago.
My order status is still processing so i am asking

Can i cancel the order and receive my BTC back instantly ?

Thank you,
Cris


Update 31October   .Received my order after 28 days + a bonus from Juergen .I must tell you i'm very happy .Never lose your hope .

Thank you Juergen
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: caffeine_me on October 04, 2011, 07:38 am
I have to admitt I was a bit nervous when comments started heading south and the product didn't arrive for 10 days.  I really hate MDA and there had been reports of possibly containing it with MDMA.  I started the night with 75mg of AA's and repeated in one hour.  1.5 hours after that I dropped 150mg of Juergen and it sent me into outer-space.  Things got a bit pix-elated and mild hallucinations.  It was probably too much.  My friend that did the reverse order said his favorite was Juergon's hands down.  He responded back to me and appears to be motivated again.  I would use him in the future....if the quality control stays high.  Thanks for a great night Juergen!
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: shitballs49 on October 04, 2011, 04:29 pm
My order (that I mentioned in reply #57 on: September 28, 2011) took ~9 days to ship to the USA. This time I received juergen's brown crystals. Have not tried yet but it looks good  ;)
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Jhdrgdzw on December 10, 2011, 11:55 pm
Here is the update to the non delivery/non response situation Ive experienced with Juergen2001.
 
I've sent him several messages offering an opportunity to make good on this raw deal, some of which he answered stating he was sorry and he would refund or send me the product. Its been exactly 3 months since my original order with Juergen2001. I don't know if this was a case of things getting out of control for him, then a matter of "under rug swept" or if it was selective scamming, but I feel he demonstrated a real lack of integrity.

I don't expect he will resolve this with me,  however I said I would leave an updated report as its only fair to the group for the truth to told, but you never know. Needless to say, overall,  this was a terrible buyer experience with this vendor, up to this point.

Jhdrgdzw
 
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Leech on January 01, 2012, 09:22 am
WTH,

Reading all these, should I choose DopeBoy or Juergen2001?
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: dr octagon on January 01, 2012, 12:34 pm
Finally got around to trying the tan gear for NYE.  Very strong, classic MDMA vibe.  The strongest gear I have had from SR, maybe a little more of a hangover with this gear than some
others....


Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Ben22 on January 01, 2012, 01:17 pm
I Just wanted to chime in with my experience with Juergen. 

Speed was perfect and packaging was ok.  He uses single ply sealing where others use double ply.

My only complaint is weight.  It was short by 31mg on a 1000mg order.  Not enough to make a fuss over but still short.  I got an order from 3Jane and DopeBoy at the same time, and both were slightly over ordered weight.

I'll be trying out all three and will try to give a fair evaluation of the roll.  I'll be doing DB's tonight.  His crystals are intriguing as hell.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: 100% American on January 05, 2012, 05:48 am
Juergen is a great vendor. I am sure he would work out any problems with your order
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: freebirds on January 09, 2012, 05:27 pm
I have been waiting for over three weeks for a package from Juergen!  I have had no other holiday shipping delays from any other vendors ( 1 to three days at most).....only Juergen.  I will update when it arrives or when he re-ships another (I hope).
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: KingThursday on January 09, 2012, 06:02 pm
I ordered before x-mas, and it was here when i returned after the holiday. It was here.

Just some shitty euro speed, but it was def amph, so the haters can fuck off.

His MDMA is top notch, and if you want good speed, order some meth from the states. period.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 14, 2012, 01:51 pm
i don't like to say this especially about the so called top sellers but mr juergen has ripped me off;
"3g's of mdma = 1 g of pure MDMA (crystals) + 2g -MDMA-NEW BATCH(BROWN CRYSTALS)FROM GERMANY, what i got was nothing like the orig order, whatever it is its together mixed up in package of totally different colour / def not as described. still waiting on a solution,no communication so i have no idea whats going on,this order is looking like a selective scamming."

i have been patient and waited for a solution from this seller but his lack of responses i can only conclude he is selectively scamming and i'm fucking pissed.
none of his message responses get me the impression he is interested in resolving nor is paying much attention too.

so much for sellers in the top 5?!

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: NeveWitch on January 15, 2012, 01:39 am
Posted in the Juergen2001 review thread here (http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=6177.0), and might as well post here. I placed an order 22 days ago for 2g of his MDMA. I'm patient, but I'm pretty sure it's not supposed to take this long to reach West Coast US. Messaged Juergen earlier last week, and was told to wait 5 more days. Hopefully I'll get something this next week. Will update with what happens.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: dr octagon on January 16, 2012, 01:46 am
i don't like to say this especially about the so called top sellers but mr juergen has ripped me off;
"3g's of mdma = 1 g of pure MDMA (crystals) + 2g -MDMA-NEW BATCH(BROWN CRYSTALS)FROM GERMANY, what i got was nothing like the orig order, whatever it is its together mixed up in package of totally different colour / def not as described. still waiting on a solution,no communication so i have no idea whats going on,this order is looking like a selective scamming."

i have been patient and waited for a solution from this seller but his lack of responses i can only conclude he is selectively scamming and i'm fucking pissed.
none of his message responses get me the impression he is interested in resolving nor is paying much attention too.

so much for sellers in the top 5?!

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

What are you actually saying?  You got 3gms of powder, but not the right colour?  Have you tested it?  Juergen is not a selective scammer. The guy has thousands of transactions on here and is usually ranked in top 2.  His MDMA is excellent.

His communication isn't that great due to the amount of orders and pms he gets....  Maybe no excuse, but doesn't amount to selective scamming.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Dazarius on January 16, 2012, 02:37 pm
In my experience, Juergen2001 delivery times are the fastest. Received a package today and it came six days. Never had any trouble with this vendor and would always recommend this one for the first time customers.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Lazy Cloud on January 17, 2012, 09:32 am
My mates and I have well over 30 orders between us from Juergen over the last 4 months. We have never had anything but the promptest postage times, and best product. Only thing i can concur, is sometimes, only sometimes, your weight MIIIGHT be around 0.01ish under. Other than that, the guys a legend. And for the above poster, you also cant deny other vendors making fake forum accounts to discredit their competition. I think thats more likely than Juergen being a selective "Scammer".
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: juergen2001 on January 17, 2012, 11:39 am
HI there,

first: I have to say, that this is my first post in this forum. Normally I think that a forum is for the customers to share information about products and sellers and not for me as a seller to make advertising or anything else like other sellers do here on the forum.

But since I read the article about some buyers here, I have to take position and I hope you understand that.

I seriously don't understand the guys here, especially this DR... I send him my normal MDMA, like always. It is lab tested pure and uncut. Of course it looks like different colors if you crush the crystals really good. He tells me all the time that he want's a refund but I simply don't get for what. He ordered MDMA and got the MDMA and now he wants money back. Honestly who would do that? I can tell you DR you won't get a single cent. I work with SR very close and I get always what I want, because they know that I am here to make people happy and not to hurt somebody.

second:

why the hell do people still think I am a scamer? What is wrong with you guys? I have more than 2000 successful shipments and you really think I want to loose costumers only to get 100$ extra?!?!?? This selective scaming thing is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. I talk to other sellers here on SR a lot and they always tell me the same, that some buyers take advantage of the escrow to rip people off.
For the seller it is totally stupid to scam anybody, this is why you can count on that none of the top 5 seller is a scamer. even selective scamming is absolutely unnecessary! If you understand only a little from business on the internet (I hope the guys with the scamming idea have seen a school yard before in their lives :-) you should know that you earn more with a happy customer than with a one time scam.
If we would talk about one kg of mdma, then okay I would trust you, that somebody would rip you off for that but for one, two or even 5g of MDMA NO WAY!!!!!! :-D That's just silly
We sellers here on SR are not the typical street dealer, I have a job, a wife, two children. I went to school finished my master degree two years ago and I am not a poor man and so I absolutely don't get why I should scam somebody. This here is a project to give people the opportunity to buy or share drugs without getting into a criminal scene and you all (the people with the scaming idea) behave like you are still in this scene. BUT I am not from this scene and so I am really pissed about this hole scamming blaming. Honest people don't do that

third:

The speed... I will explain everything. I tried the speed and I liked it very much (and I still do), this is why I wrote the text on my page but I had 4 or 5 customer who complained about the quality. I immediately took the product of the side, because I don't want to sell stuff that might be not the quality that I advertised. I have many customers who loved the stuff and wanted more, so I decided to bring the stuff to the lab and get it tested before selling it, because I want only the best quality for my customers. I will upload the results of the test and TO ALL PEOPLE WHO ORDERED MY 80% AMPHETAMINE, please don't be scared of getting ripped off, I never did this and will never do. If it will turn out that the batch isn't quality I will refund any customer who had complaints about the product!! Your money is not gone, like I said, I am here on SR to build longtime relationships not for a little money in my pocket... The test result can take about 10 days..

I hope you understand my situation and that I had to write this. To all my regular customers thank you for being so honest and your trust through the last 6 months..

Regards

Juergen2001
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DRac on January 17, 2012, 09:08 pm
HI there,

first: I have to say, that this is my first post in this forum. Normally I think that a forum is for the customers to share information about products and sellers and not for me as a seller to make advertising or anything else like other sellers do here on the forum.

But since I read the article about some buyers here, I have to take position and I hope you understand that.

I seriously don't understand the guys here, especially this DR... I send him my normal MDMA, like always. It is lab tested pure and uncut. Of course it looks like different colors if you crush the crystals really good. He tells me all the time that he want's a refund but I simply don't get for what. He ordered MDMA and got the MDMA and now he wants money back. Honestly who would do that? I can tell you DR you won't get a single cent. I work with SR very close and I get always what I want, because they know that I am here to make people happy and not to hurt somebody.

second:

why the hell do people still think I am a scamer? What is wrong with you guys? I have more than 2000 successful shipments and you really think I want to loose costumers only to get 100$ extra?!?!?? This selective scaming thing is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. I talk to other sellers here on SR a lot and they always tell me the same, that some buyers take advantage of the escrow to rip people off.
For the seller it is totally stupid to scam anybody, this is why you can count on that none of the top 5 seller is a scamer. even selective scamming is absolutely

mr juergen

i will state some facts as i have done in pm's to you spanning 2 weeks which you obviously won't post here because it might reflect on you badly :-

1. your 2 items were listed 1 under white mdma and other was the general mdma section.
2. the mdma titles were :
1 g of pure MDMA (crystals)

2g -MDMA-NEW BATCH(BROWN CRYSTALS)FROM GERMANY
3. i was expecting 1x white and 2x brown crystal, not something mixed up/crushed/mixed with anything/processed whatever i got is not what i thought i ordered.
4. reflecting back after 2 weeks, the pictures seem to be the same "stuff"...also confusing...its listed under "white mdma" but it has a picture of brown crystal mdma...!?
5. I'll put this nicely i could be more descriptive if i had my own way -you don't respond much to messages. my messages to you in 2 weeks doesn't suggest you have
read them no matter how much i explain its all in waste.
6. i am a very reasonable person but you are being extremely unreasonable about everything which includes perhaps you screwed up the order predentation and
perhaps don't read everything people message you (no i am not the only person on this planet but everything is in messages i have sent you)
7. i never asked you to crush anything -just send me whats in the picture a simple request.
8. you never responded specifically to this question (i summarise) "..what have you sent me in the post -white or brown.." dated 11th Jan.
9. if you don't respond in a timely manner especially point 7 and send something that is crushed up as you now add what is a buyer supposed to think??!
10. "why the hell do people still think I am a scamer?" -because a seller can selectively send a newbie whatever he feels like sending and will be able to get away
with it because he can always say i have 200 good sells and the buyer must be wrong. send what the picture shows and there is less chance of being a problem.

i am quite prepared to admit in public if i have been wrong in any way.

anymore details we need to argue in public?!

amen
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: caffeine_me on January 17, 2012, 09:13 pm
Juergen don't take no guff from them swine.  You are and have been top of the class for a reason.  It will be nice to hear some positive things about the 80%, and some lab results.  I was just about to buy.  Thank you for always trying to improve the quality of your products.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Ben22 on January 17, 2012, 09:20 pm
As others have noted, the quality, speed and service that Juergen2001 gives is excellent.  The only complaint I have is weight and I think its due to the packaging.  What I received was slightly under weight by 3%.  Without getting into details, I think the compactness of the packaging removes a wee bit during the sealing.  Juergen should consider looking into it.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 17, 2012, 10:23 pm
HI there,

first: I have to say, that this is my first post in this forum. Normally I think that a forum is for the customers to share information about products and sellers and not for me as a seller to make advertising or anything else like other sellers do here on the forum.

But since I read the article about some buyers here, I have to take position and I hope you understand that.

I seriously don't understand the guys here, especially this DR... I send him my normal MDMA, like always. It is lab tested pure and uncut. Of course it looks like different colors if you crush the crystals really good. He tells me all the time that he want's a refund but I simply don't get for what. He ordered MDMA and got the MDMA and now he wants money back. Honestly who would do that? I can tell you DR you won't get a single cent. I work with SR very close and I get always what I want, because they know that I am here to make people happy and not to hurt somebody.

second:

why the hell do people still think I am a scamer? What is wrong with you guys? I have more than 2000 successful shipments and you really think I want to loose costumers only to get 100$ extra?!?!?? This selective scaming thing is the most stupid thing I have ever heard. I talk to other sellers here on SR a lot and they always tell me the same, that some buyers take advantage of the escrow to rip people off.
For the seller it is totally stupid to scam anybody, this is why you can count on that none of the top 5 seller is a scamer. even selective scamming is absolutely unnecessary!

mr juergen

i will state some facts as i have done in pm's to you spanning 2 weeks which you obviously won't post here because it might reflect on you badly :-

1. your 2 items were listed 1 under white mdma and other was the general mdma section.
2. the mdma titles were :
1 g of pure MDMA (crystals)

2g -MDMA-NEW BATCH(BROWN CRYSTALS)FROM GERMANY
3. i was expecting 1x white and 2x brown crystal, not something mixed up/crushed/mixed with anything/processed whatever i got is not what i thought i ordered.
4. reflecting back after 2 weeks, the pictures seem to be the same "stuff"...also confusing...its listed under "white mdma" but it has a picture of brown crystal mdma...!?
5. I'll put this nicely i could be more descriptive if i had my own way -you don't respond much to messages. my messages to you in 2 weeks doesn't suggest you have
read them no matter how much i explain its all in waste.
6. i am a very reasonable person but you are being extremely unreasonable about everything which includes perhaps you screwed up the order predentation and
perhaps don't read everything people message you (no i am not the only person on this planet but everything is in messages i have sent you)
7. i never asked you to crush anything -just send me whats in the picture a simple request.
8. you never responded specifically to this question (i summarise) "..what have you sent me in the post -white or brown.." dated 11th Jan.
9. if you don't respond in a timely manner especially point 7 and send something that is crushed up as you now add what is a buyer supposed to think??!
10. "why the hell do people still think I am a scamer?" -because a seller can selectively send a newbie whatever he feels like sending and will be able to get away
with it because he can always say i have 200 good sells and the buyer must be wrong. send what the picture shows and there is less chance of being a problem.

i am quite prepared to admit in public if i have been wrong in any way.

anymore details we need to argue in public?!

amen

{i temporarily lost my account my fault so post the same msg and edit the prev DRac]
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DRac on January 17, 2012, 10:26 pm
f**kit i'll leave it.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 17, 2012, 10:36 pm
as usual the buyer gets ignored and shafted

thanks to everyone who has read my posts and to the rest who have read nothing.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 17, 2012, 10:45 pm
i don't like to say this especially about the so called top sellers but mr juergen has ripped me off;
"3g's of mdma = 1 g of pure MDMA (crystals) + 2g -MDMA-NEW BATCH(BROWN CRYSTALS)FROM GERMANY, what i got was nothing like the orig order, whatever it is its together mixed up in package of totally different colour / def not as described. still waiting on a solution,no communication so i have no idea whats going on,this order is looking like a selective scamming."

i have been patient and waited for a solution from this seller but his lack of responses i can only conclude he is selectively scamming and i'm fucking pissed.
none of his message responses get me the impression he is interested in resolving nor is paying much attention too.

so much for sellers in the top 5?!

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

What are you actually saying?  You got 3gms of powder, but not the right colour?  Have you tested it?  Juergen is not a selective scammer. The guy has thousands of transactions on here and is usually ranked in top 2.  His MDMA is excellent.

His communication isn't that great due to the amount of orders and pms he gets....  Maybe no excuse, but doesn't amount to selective scamming.

what i am saying is i bought 1x as white mdma and 2x as brown crystal new batch mdma
his mdma is no good cos i took just over 200mg and nothing happened.
dr octagon, i am a reasonable person so i am sure mr juergen has supplied this brown mdma as advertised and i can't say what its like i've never had it, you might very well have and say its good well done, it might have been.
to assume because someone got something that was the fucking bees knees does not mean it will be excellent all the time.

please comment on the above statement if you feel that every batch is always the same even when someone wants to sell you shit, i am all ears?!
otherwise i am sure sellers do sell good stuff i am not knocking every single case you might very well be a seller yourself no idea.

otherwise this is a closed case and fuck the buyer he does not matter -yet again.

have a wonderful day.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: k1k1 on January 17, 2012, 11:29 pm
Welcome to Forum juergen :) nice to see you here.

@DR:
Ofc not every batch is the same.
I can talk for myself as very experienced MDMA user.
I had a total of 3 orders the last 2 months from juergens MDMA.
It always seems to be the same for me, ofc i couldn't test it @lab, but just how it looks like,
how it crushes and so on.
I wasn't the only person testing the stuff. Every person i have let tested the (brown) MDMA
was very very fine with that. I gave to experienced users also to some "new ones". They all got
fuckin satisfied! (thank for that juergen btw :) ).
We calculate for new users with 1.5mg/kg. I don't know about your personal weight and such
stuff, but perhaps you need some more or even have a tolerance. ( Do you snort or how do you consume? )

At the end i don't get, why some vendor should scam a buyer selective. It doesn't make sense to me.
I was a new buyer and my deal with juergen was my first or second one. He was a great contact
and supplied good stuff. He is probably one of the reason, why i love SR that much.
I even can't promise that his MDMA will be the same all the time, all I can say is that i had 3 orders over the time
and the quality was straight the same for me.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 18, 2012, 01:11 am
k1k1:i should rather have wasted time and money on a cheap pill for better effect and told juergen this,i am not the only one who think his product(s) are sub standard and non-commication and no product for weeks on end, there are 2 other threads about juergens stuff rest of answers are in there.

http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=6177.0
http://dkn255hz262ypmii.onion/index.php?topic=7927


Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 18, 2012, 01:19 am
ok this seems to be a closed case now.

as usual the buyer gets ignored and shafted

thanks to everyone who has read my posts and to the rest who have read nothing.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Tendril on January 18, 2012, 02:17 am
I've always had great quality products from Juergen2001 - he's been my MDMA supplier of choice after trying a few out. Communication is always fast and clear, shipping is high quality and his product is as described.

Have you had anyone else confirm that the MDMA was bad? Some people react differently and it may be conflicting with something else you're taking. I've never had any issue at all with Juergen and have recommended him to many friends with no complaints.

Keep up the good work, J, don't feel disheartened - there are a lot of us that really appreciate your service!
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: dr octagon on January 18, 2012, 11:04 am
i don't like to say this especially about the so called top sellers but mr juergen has ripped me off;
"3g's of mdma = 1 g of pure MDMA (crystals) + 2g -MDMA-NEW BATCH(BROWN CRYSTALS)FROM GERMANY, what i got was nothing like the orig order, whatever it is its together mixed up in package of totally different colour / def not as described. still waiting on a solution,no communication so i have no idea whats going on,this order is looking like a selective scamming."

i have been patient and waited for a solution from this seller but his lack of responses i can only conclude he is selectively scamming and i'm fucking pissed.
none of his message responses get me the impression he is interested in resolving nor is paying much attention too.

so much for sellers in the top 5?!

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

What are you actually saying?  You got 3gms of powder, but not the right colour?  Have you tested it?  Juergen is not a selective scammer. The guy has thousands of transactions on here and is usually ranked in top 2.  His MDMA is excellent.

His communication isn't that great due to the amount of orders and pms he gets....  Maybe no excuse, but doesn't amount to selective scamming.

what i am saying is i bought 1x as white mdma and 2x as brown crystal new batch mdma
his mdma is no good cos i took just over 200mg and nothing happened.
dr octagon, i am a reasonable person so i am sure mr juergen has supplied this brown mdma as advertised and i can't say what its like i've never had it, you might very well have and say its good well done, it might have been.
to assume because someone got something that was the fucking bees knees does not mean it will be excellent all the time.

please comment on the above statement if you feel that every batch is always the same even when someone wants to sell you shit, i am all ears?!
otherwise i am sure sellers do sell good stuff i am not knocking every single case you might very well be a seller yourself no idea.

otherwise this is a closed case and fuck the buyer he does not matter -yet again.

have a wonderful day.

We can only comment on our experiences..   97-99% of which seem to be good going by feedback... 

I have tried 2 of Juergen's batches. Both were excellent.  One was not as euphoric for me the first time I tried it, and I doubted as you can see by my posts that it was MDMA- maybe MDEA. I have come to the conclusion that I was wrong. I was just having too much. With strong MDMA that is not pressed hard or mixed with caffeine or amph a very strong dose, i.e 200mg on an empty stomach can actually take away some of the more subtle euphoric qualities of the experience for me...  I learnt something new.

Even when I questioned his much earlier batch, I still praised the strength and clarity of the gear, and his excellent service and packaging.

Calling out someone as a selective scammer when the evidence is clearly that almost everyone has had a good experience isn't going to get you anywhere.  Especially if you are new to the forums...

Try it again, empty stomach,  good energy etc etc  130mg  followed by 70+mg booster in one hour.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: J0s4ella on January 18, 2012, 12:31 pm
only good things to say about juergen ive ordered a few times from him and both times fast delivery and product was great
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: user1488 on January 22, 2012, 09:00 am
hi! does somebody can approve the Juergen's speed quality? I've seen only negative feedbacks about it.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 23, 2012, 05:41 pm
mdma:
the feedback explanations i am getting is mdma is just mdma.
= mdma is the same as another batch of mdma.
i am not a chemist but then that would mean that everyones wrong and its all in your head

 >:(
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 23, 2012, 06:05 pm
who wants to buy 2g's of juergens mdma?
at a slightly discounted rate.
i am not a seller dont have an account
i will send exactly what i received you can take my word for it.
cannot garantee delivery just a one man band not a seller with thousands in the bank.
i cannot garantee anything else name it and i will consider.
i am only interested in turning my money over i have no other motives.
pm if you are interested.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: derpson on January 23, 2012, 06:27 pm
who wants to buy 2g's of juergens mdma?
at a slightly discounted rate.
i am not a seller dont have an account
i will send exactly what i received you can take my word for it.
cannot garantee delivery just a one man band not a seller with thousands in the bank.
i cannot garantee anything else name it and i will consider.
i am only interested in turning my money over i have no other motives.
pm if you are interested.

are you serious?

i hope nobody is taking this moron seriously because juergen is obviously a top notch seller. man, it's illiterate jackwagons like this guy who make otherwise perfect vendors on SR jaded. go to hell, DR. i mean, you can't even remember the password to your forum account so you had to make like 3.

dumb. moderator please close this thread.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 23, 2012, 06:51 pm
who is derpson in relation to my issue with mdma?
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 23, 2012, 06:56 pm
" you can't even remember the password to your forum account so you had to make like 3."

what does this mean?
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 23, 2012, 06:59 pm
juergen2001:
ranked #3 out of 274 sellers with 97.3% positive feedback

used to be #2
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: NeveWitch on January 24, 2012, 09:03 pm
Going on over 30 days, and he hasn't responded to my messages in a week. I'm willing to wait until the end of this week before I drop a 1-star. I'm not hoping I'll see my package by that time, but I'm hoping for some sort of resolution with Juergen. Unfortunately I don't have any other choice.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: flobe on January 24, 2012, 11:57 pm
Quote
are you serious?

i hope nobody is taking this moron seriously because juergen is obviously a top notch seller. man, it's illiterate jackwagons like this guy who make otherwise perfect vendors on SR jaded. go to hell, DR. i mean, you can't even remember the password to your forum account so you had to make like 3.

dumb. moderator please close this thread.

Sadly  I have to say sadly DR (and others) has a point.   

=(

 I like the others in this thread have been waiting over a month for our deliveries with only response being that the delay is holiday mail issues.  I placed my order on December 21 - it is now Jan 24  i dont think holiday mail takes that long.  In a recent pm: package was promised in a few days - of course to never show up still. 

I have bought often from Juerg strictly because of his awesome product and usual stellar customer service- but it appears now that he has started to become untrustworthy and that is from my personal experience in dealing with him over the last month -

I ordered  a month ago, I have paid and not received my product.  I have informed the seller Jurgen2001 and he has stated it is due to holiday mail delay... a 35 day mail delay...  Seller is aware of situation and his solution is to continue waiting on a package we both know at this point will never come.  I am still hoping for any kind of resolution from my former favorite seller but I am not holding my breath. 

The more you know....
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 25, 2012, 04:17 pm
flobe:
thankyou for posting.
communication is his big issue we are told to communicate and when you get no response and a different product is obvious right.
and to top it off juergen and odd users make out this is all my fault.
to date doesnt admit how he screwed up even in my pm's and do you trust someone who continues to hide and his rating is not valid?
tells me to take more of the last 2g's it is real proper mdma well thats just crazy solution.
i say admit there screwed up compensate and move on.

 :-\
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: DR on January 25, 2012, 05:03 pm
i rechecked my mails i sent 3 only 2 days ago only got reply to 1 of them.
i give up trying to suck the answers out my thumb.
 :(
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Holly on January 25, 2012, 08:27 pm
Approaching day 21 either they're onto juergen or idk but holidays mail or not Ive never had anything this long.  I just ordered 10 tabs of cid too I hope he didn't turn scanner -_-
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Jhdrgdzw on January 25, 2012, 09:19 pm
who wants to buy 2g's of juergens mdma?
at a slightly discounted rate.
i am not a seller dont have an account
i will send exactly what i received you can take my word for it.
cannot garantee delivery just a one man band not a seller with thousands in the bank.
i cannot garantee anything else name it and i will consider.
i am only interested in turning my money over i have no other motives.
pm if you are interested.

are you serious?

i hope nobody is taking this moron seriously because juergen is obviously a top notch seller. man, it's illiterate jackwagons like this guy who make otherwise perfect vendors on SR jaded. go to hell, DR. i mean, you can't even remember the password to your forum account so you had to make like 3.

dumb. moderator please close this thread.

I dont think DR deserves to be attacked for expressing his opinions. Its all subjective. Its not fair to say he's wrong, and illiterate and blah blah blah just because your experience with jerkins has been all aces. Just like the guys who have been fucked by this guy cant really relate to you. And not only that, but its very frusterating to have had a bad experience and then get berated for it by an overly enthusiastic fan boy. Remember this is an open forum, for sharing experiences to allow for a safer, more secure and informed buying experience for everyone. lets keep it that way lets try not to use ridicule as a means of coercing into silence, those we might disagree with.

Just my 2 pennies :--\
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: shroomsmoreawesome on January 26, 2012, 03:13 am
Same situation, 10 tabs of acid were sent out on 6 Jan according to juergen, still waiting, East Coast.
Holly: where are you located?
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: SmCoop on January 26, 2012, 10:18 pm
I'm on East coast US and shipping date was also January 6th for 2g of MDMA.  Still nothing.  I'm going to try messaging again today.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: e4meallday on January 27, 2012, 01:34 am
@ DR u my friend are a moron!! thats ur whole beef with juergon that u thought u were getting white mdma and u got brown? wtf is ur problem causing all this commotion over the fucking color of the mdma. and he has to crush it up to ship it u dumbass. u dont just leave the product in chunk form and ship it. i ordered my first time w juergon 3 months ago and yes the listing was for white but i got the brown and i tested it like any other person with a brain would and it smoked and fizzed and turned instantly black black blue indicating high quality mdma. stop causing so many fucking problems on here and get the fuck out of here. juergon has delivered over 12 times the same high quality mdma every single time. who really gives a fuck if its not the color specified. did u ever think he may have forgotten to remove the color posting? ur to much of a pussy to do mdma. go find a tampon vendor u lil bitch!!!
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: anton on January 27, 2012, 01:40 am
I waited a long time for my package to arrive, i was then issued a re-ship that arrived successfully. this wast my first or last order with this vendor. high quality mdma. Cheers Juergen2001 . appreciate it. look foward to my next two orders arriving.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Holly on January 27, 2012, 02:49 am
Same situation, 10 tabs of acid were sent out on 6 Jan according to juergen, still waiting, East Coast.
Holly: where are you located?
_
_
Central US.  Juergen just responded,  he's gonna reship.   This is all weird as this is not holiday delays and is more pointing to they may be closely scrutinizing juergenss packs from his sending area.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: NeveWitch on February 06, 2012, 01:28 am
Update! So my original 2g of MDMA never arrived (I ordered it mid-December). After a bit of messaging back and forth, Juergen reshipped my package and it got to me within a week. An unexpectedly pleasant ending! Cheers, Juergen!
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: johnwholesome on February 11, 2012, 12:25 am
When I started this thread I was just worried juergen may have gotten nabbed by the coppers or something because the issues with my order were a "pattern breaker".

Had I known it turns into a "the white should have been brown and the brown should have been white and why is it crushed" bash-party I wouldn't have made this post.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: SmCoop on February 11, 2012, 02:57 am
Got a reship on my lost MDMA from Juergen after 32 days.  I almost felt bad asking.  He's been a stand up guy through the whole process.  I think the holidays ate a few envelopes.

If the original order somehow makes it to me, I will definitely pay the man.

(I've ignored the brown/white nonsense.  His product has always been legit as far as I'm concerned.)
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: Locrian on February 13, 2012, 08:12 am
His communication sucks nuts, but his product is fantastic.  That about sums it up in my experience!
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: rainbowmembrane on February 17, 2012, 04:00 am
*bump*
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: takeittothelimits on February 17, 2012, 06:08 pm
hi everybody, i will comment on my experience, on 11th or 12th november i ordered 1g mdma from juergen it was my first order here on SR, just to do a "favor" to juergen (just that his profile said) i finalize earlier because my order went to south america. i was sending a message monthly and he always respond, 1 month ago he said:

Quote from: Juergen2001

I don't have so much experience with your country only in your capital and it sometimes takes a little more time to there. No worries..

Regards

Juergen2001

this response was when the package was 2 months from the order date, at first i think that can happen, my hope was lost at this time. 4 days ago i send another message to him, he even bother to read the message, today i send another message just to know if he is ignoring me, also today i update my feedback and i put 1/5 instead of the original 5/5 i put 3 months ago.
juergen if you see this, you can contact me here on the forum or in the SR site.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: divinechemicals on February 17, 2012, 06:18 pm
I see that a lot of people have been having trouble with juergen apparently, so I'm just here to add to the latest posts saying that he's definitely still in action. I ordered his 5 mayan tabs about a week ago, and they arrived in my mailbox this morning. I had no troubles receiving the package whatsoever, and the tabs were hidden very well. No way anyone would have found them unless they had teared open the package. I have yet to test them, but they did arrive!
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: rainbowmembrane on February 20, 2012, 03:26 am
I see that a lot of people have been having trouble with juergen apparently, so I'm just here to add to the latest posts saying that he's definitely still in action. I ordered his 5 mayan tabs about a week ago, and they arrived in my mailbox this morning. I had no troubles receiving the package whatsoever, and the tabs were hidden very well. No way anyone would have found them unless they had teared open the package. I have yet to test them, but they did arrive!

Please review those Mayans ASAP!
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: qetuoljgdaxvn on February 20, 2012, 11:38 am
Second the Mayans review request!
Mine should hopefully be arriving soon and I don't want to dose too much (my 3rd time tripping either) nor do I want to underdose if these tabs aren't all they're cracked up to be
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: timoknow on February 20, 2012, 12:12 pm
weird ive always had good experience with juergen. but my stuff has always arrived, i've finalized early on a couple. and also left it go through escrow on a couple. both times no issues
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: shroomsmoreawesome on February 21, 2012, 08:26 pm
Received my blotters after a reshipment. This time it only took 5 days EU --> US East coast.
Title: Re: juergen2001...what's going on?
Post by: NotMe123 on September 28, 2012, 03:41 am
ive been waiting for over a week just to recieve my tracking number, if it takes this long just to get a tracking number how long will it take to get the item?
i paid extra for tracking.

where is my tracking number and order?